Hi Ian,

Why? No girls, no photographers and artists, while maybe less than 10% will be interested in picture taking then.
Thanks for the link.

Here is a hard to find Seagull 4C, and its 3 'super rare' copies. All take 6x6,6x4.5 and 135 frames.

Cheers,

Zhang 

 

 

 

 

Here is an interesting old picture. I believe the photographer was holding a Seagull TLR.

 

 

Some recent auction records

An vintage camera auctione was held a few days ago in Shenyang. Here are some of the Chinese cameras sold at the auction:

1,1503 spy camera, RMB 11,000.00
2, 1501 spy camera, RMB 5,000.00
3, Xingfu I, RMB 480.00
4, Lanjian swing lens LF camera with tripod and accessaries, RMB 6,000.00
5, Zhujiang 602 120 folder, 1,700.00.
6, Shanghai 58-2 type A, RMB 3,500.00
7, Phenix 301, RMB 4,600.00
8, Dalian 120 TLR, RMB 11,500.00
9, Zhujiang 7 120 TLR, RMB 100,000.00
......

Rare vintage Chinese cameras are hot selling items, while many German, and Japanese cameras remain unsold.

 

 

Hi,

It is said that this 20m f2 35mm cine prime approched Zeiss quality in 1970's.

Have you heard of the revolutionalry product of RED ONE? the 35mm cine format digital cinema camera that uses all the 35mm cine lenses, plus many still primes including our Russian and Chinese optics. Used Zeiss primes are hot selling items on evilbay now for very high prices. I hope that the manufactur knows there is a Chinese Nr. 608 factory that makes these quality lenses.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Here are a few more from my Chinese 35mm cine lenses collection. All are very rare, and brand new toys. 35/T1.4 is the rarest. 28/2 and 75/2 were made by Ganguang, another factory that also made an Arriflex 35 IIC copy.

There a few other factories that also makes(made) cine optics and equipment.

 

 

 

 

Some 1950-60's PLA military scopes. This one is a copy of a Soviet scope. I saw the Russian one offered on ebay for about US$1,500. The Chinese version is somewhat better finished.

 

 

 

 

Type 63,65 artillery scopes. These were made since 1963,1965

 

 

 

Here are a few more. I find these very rare and interesting precision instruments. These are barely seen for sale outside China.

 

 

 

 

I will show you an extremely rare Chinese OM mount 50/3.5 macro lens. It has no s/n, nor brand name. It focus down to 0.15m. No one has mentioned such a lens before. I wonder why it is in Olympus mount? China has never made an Olympus mount camera

 

 

One more mysterious and very rare Chinese lens. This macro 19mm F1.7! looks like a fish eye, but it is a rectilinear lens that covers a 35mm cine frame. I am not sure of its application. Maybe some sort of industrial lens

 

 

I found a Soviet artillery scope recently in excellent condition. It has a brown finish.

 

 

Shanghai 58-III. An extremely rare Chinese camera. Looks like an Agfa 120 folder copy.

 

 

 

It has been quite a while I did not post anything. I don't remember if I posted an image of this lens. It is China made counterpart of Nikon Ultra-micro lenses.

This one is for laser engraving. It has a resolving power of > 500 l/mm with a light of 435nm wavelength. I just learned recently about this lens. So I post an image of it here. There are other focal lengths of this type lens.

 

 

 

Zhang tongzhi,

I finally got a Shanghai-58II. A friend bought it for me in Beijing.

 

 

 

You're right. THey're not as well made as an equivalent FED or Zorki. I had to repair and replace the shutters of this Shanghai. The internal parts are really rough and the meshing is iffy. These make the internal parts of the Zorki Swiss-like.

But all in all, the Seagull is a triumph of combining the best of Leica, FED, Zorki, and Canon....the best parts from these cameras put together with a lot of improvements in the process. Sadly the intent was lost with the poor quality mechanism

 

 

 

 

 

These Chinese Leicas generally look better than Russian ones, especially those early version with strap lugs and better leather covering. Some could be quite smooth after a good service, and even the slow speeds could be relatively accurate. Like Russian cameras, generally later cameras are not as well made as earlier ones. I think some 76,000 58-2 were made between 1958-1963, so you can check the s/n of your camera to get a rough idea when it was made.

I replaced the part that will be dis-engaged when re-winding film, and this part will push the leaf spring down, and also the take-up spool. I tried the normal lens once, and it is no comparison even to an I-26m. I am not sure if it is a 3E/3G design.

I believe some more capable factories were kept for military and professional products. Shanghai made a Zeiss GFL copy in late 1950's, and they suppied objectives to Carl Zeiss of West Germany in 1980's. Other factories had cooperation with Carl Zeiss Jena of GDR since 1950's. So I guess if they really wanted to make a better camera, perhaps they could do it. But these civilian luxury products were not top priority then

 

 

 

 

 

Here is a new book about vintage Chinese cameras in Japanese and Chinese. The author is a fan of Chinese câmeras.

 

 

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